mintCast 173 – Tinfoil Lite

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3 Replies to “mintCast 173 – Tinfoil Lite”

  1. bananabob

    Of course there is no way of knowing who is really behind something like bitmessage. It could be that the NSA actually wrote the software and can still read all your mail. One way to make youe enemies think you cant read there stuff.

  2. richardquirk

    On the Debian developer’s mailing list recently there was a post[1] “Preventing government subversion in Debian, verification of binary package uploads” – which is concerned about the origin of binary packages compared to their source code. Ubuntu uses build servers, whereas all binary packages in Debian are uploaded by the maintainer, built on their local machines. The Ubuntu case could mean a compromised server would insert backdoors in all suitable packages, the latter would require “compromised” individuals and – given Debian’s web-of-trust – is much harder to completely break.

    On a related note, the website has recently taken a stance of not trusting Ubuntu and distros that use its packages – including Linux Mint – when recommending GNU/Linux for folks trying to “Opt out of global data surveillance”. It does still mention Linux Mint Debian Edition.

    There’s an interesting/paranoid discussion on the github issue[2]. The main point I got out of it was that Ubuntu added “spyware” so cannot be trusted, derivatives like Mint or Trisquel do not have the manpower to vet all of Ubuntu – they just pull in Ubuntu changes as-is – and thus cannot be trusted either. The prism-break folk don’t just attribute this spyware thing in Ubuntu to malice – it could be down to ignorance too they say (nice!). Debian, they argue, has a higher barrier to entry as a maintainer so it is unlikely that such a developer would submit a new package without auditing it somewhat for spyware. An Ubuntu dev is just “doing their job” and doesn’t really care.

    I don’t know what to think TBH. I’m writing this in IceWeasel running on Debian and my son’s on the other laptop running Ubuntu 12.04. All I know is that I’m glad I don’t use Windows or Mac! 🙂


  3. Adrian AC

    you missed the most functional and feature rich light weight desktop of them all: the gnome fallback mode of stock ubuntu.

    It is my go to desktop and the one I set people up with. 100% ubuntu (including software center and paid apps) and fully compatible with gnome/gtk3 apps but runs in as little as 200mb if you don’t load it up with startup apps. Ubuntu installer is much improved with the option to install proprietary stuff built in.

    Uncomposited for maximum graphics performance all the time (the latest graphics drivers don’t seem to video tear any more with youtube flash or vlc).

    Top notch hardware support and a full set of default apps are the cherries on the cake.
    Who needs xfce ? Many ubuntu users are totally unaware that they could make their system fly just by clicking a button on the login screen !

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