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<p>In our Innards section, we ask Owen how Linux is improving the lives around him.</p>
<p>And finally, some feedback and a few suggestions</p>
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<p><b>LINUX INNARDS:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><b>Owen Peery Interview</b></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What was your first Linux experience?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Berkeley Linux User group in the mid 90’s by accident, I had gotten my first computer, a little Mac, I was looking for the Berkeley Macintosh User Group, and I got them confused, BLUG vs BMUG, and when I went, I didn’t understand anything, and thought, what have I gotten myself into with this Mac. I eventually found the BMUG and I only barely understood a little more.</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">I used to go skateboarding in a warehouse in San Francisco in the 90’s called Shred of Dignity. There were a group of tech obsessed folks who lived and skated there. A man named Tom set up the warehouse after he wrote some computer program and sold it to the US Army and made a lot of money doing it. There were computers there as well and I knew they were running Linux and we thought those kids were gods because they sat at those computers typing away and we had no idea what they were doing, which is why I decided to get a computer myself, but I have no idea why I got a Mac, I think because I found one used that was in my budget.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What was the very first Linux distro you ran?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">KDE in maybe 2003 or so. I bought a used computer when I started a functional art gallery in Philadelphia. I already had a working knowledge of computers and I bought this one because it had great specs, but when I got it home I turned it on and I had no idea what I was looking at. The guy I bought it from showed me a few things and that it worked at his home, so I bought it. I had used Windows a little by then but wasn’t that familiar with it, so it worked for him, so I thought, cool, it works. I called a friend who was studying Computer Science at Drexel University and he used Linux so I knew he could help. He used KDE as well so he helped me get started, but I only kept it for about a month. I just couldn’t wrap my head around it. I installed Windows and was on my way.</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">I lived in Toulouse, France from 2007-2011 and when I was there I gave Linux a chance again. I went to the local LUG, mostly because I needed to practice my French technical vocabulary, and because I assumed some folks there would know English in case I couldn’t ask my questions in French. I used Ubuntu for about 6 months then, but I always had it dual boot with Windows because I was also in a Master’s program in Designing Information Systems and some of the software we used was Windows only, think VIsual Basic, BI, and PLSQL. When I started doing a lot more screencasts, I moved back to Macs to use Camtasia and Screenflow and gave Linux a rest for a bit.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What&#8217;s a typical workflow for you entail?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Depends on what I’m working on for the day</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">VIdeo editing</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Browser based work with personal and work email</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Working on making different workspaces reflect my needs</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Why/Why not Linux Mint?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Great for beginners, interface looks similar enough to Windows that the transition is not too hard, I moved from Macs and it’s been easy for me to figure out a lot of things.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Does Linux do everything you need in a system?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Yes but . . .</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Screenflow is an amazing app that is an all in one solution for screencasting. You can capture the video, multiple monitors possible, iPad screens even, you can edit the audio and edit the video, you can add callouts, you can add transitions, it’s really comprehensive, and at the same time not too overwhelming. It has the video and audio editing features needed to make great screencasts, but fewer than full featured audio and video editors, so you have what you need, but not too much.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Do you do any Linux Gaming?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Trying to but I’m not a gamer. I’ve got 2 STEAM games on my machine, Super Bernie Bros bc it was free and I wanted to see STEAM integration. Since it worked well, I bought a game called Streets of Rogue bc a student recommended it to me. It was on sale for $19.99 and I bought it, but I only play it infrequently, and never enough to make much progress or feel like, This is fun. I’m torn between how much to look up tips on the internet and how much should I struggle and figure it out myself. I sometimes gamify my classroom and I understand good games, digital or table top, have built in control structures to teach you how to play, so I’m wondering where those are in Streets of Rogue.</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">I’d love to find a fun game that helps teach you how to use the Terminal and learn more commands.</span>
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<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Joe &#8211; </span><a href="https://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Do you contribute to the community?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Mint forums</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Telegram groups</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bug reporting when Kdenlive went from 19-20 by accident</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Running Mint 20.04 beta but not really reporting any issues I come across, it took so much to get it all setup correctly, not bc of Mint, but getting drive partitioned correctly and the right data on the right partitions.</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">I hope to eventually use my video creation skills to help out the community once I get settled on a good workflow and dial in the software I’ll use, really trying to stick to Kdenlive but DaVinci Resolve is tempting too</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What was your main motivation for refurbishing computers?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Had a large closet full of older computers just sitting there at school, old mostly Windows 7 machines</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Many families did not have a computer or not enough computers, if they had 3 children for example.</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">I had already been using Mint for about a year on an old laptop so I knew it worked well on older hardware</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">It saved the school money so we didn’t have to eWaste another load of computers</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">It gave families computers who needed them&nbsp;</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">I teach computer science, not tech use, at school and it gave students much better computers to use than the Chromebooks the district was lending</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">District lent Chromebooks, but the backlog, wait, and locations weren’t that convenient, so we came up with our own system</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">We say in my district that in computer science we don’t just use tech we make it, so giving out Linux computers where there are no restrictions also furthers this idea, if you want your computer to do X well you can, you just have to learn how, there is nothing preventing you from making it work exactly how you want</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Is there any piece of Linux and open source software, other than a browser, you could not live without?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Not really but I love using </span><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/peek-desktop-gif-screen-recorder-linux"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Peek.</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> I have made over 10,000 video tutorials and screencasts, but recently I have fallen in love with making short animated gifs for simple how to things instead of a full video. Peek is so simple and the file size is small, so I use it a lot to visually model how to do things. It’s easier to email or put in a Google Slide deck or even put on a website for how to help.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><b>VIBRATIONS FROM THE ETHER</b></p>
<ul>
<li>jack</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="https://vscodium.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://vscodium.com/</span></a></p>
<ul>
<li>Leo’s response</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>More Jack!</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Benjamin Moser</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Travelinrob on ep337</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install"><span style="font-weight: 400;">http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install</span></a></p>
<ul>
<li>DaveW&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>John Wallis Saga Episode x+1</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I managed to get one test resolved, installing and configuring a PAM.&nbsp; I</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">would appreciate your help with resolving the following, please:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">* Consider running ARP monitoring software (arpwatch,arpon) [NETW-3032]</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><a href="https://cisofy.com/lynis/controls/NETW-3032/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://cisofy.com/lynis/controls/NETW-3032/</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I have installed Arpwatch and invoked arpwatch -i for both Ethernet and</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">wireless port, but re-running the scan makes no difference.&nbsp; I look</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">forward to hearing from you.</span></p>
<ul>
<li>Leo’s Response</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Glad to hear from you again. I installed </span><b>arpwatch</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and tinkered around with it a bit and it seems like there was a lot of digging for answers that aren&#8217;t fully addressed in the man page!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I&#8217;m not sure how familiar you are with layer 2 networking (MAC addresses, etc) so I&#8217;ll leave that alone for now. I can go into it more if you&#8217;d like.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Here&#8217;s the deal. Since you&#8217;ve got it installed, we&#8217;ll start from there. Check the status of the arpwatch service with </span><b>systemctl status arpwatch</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> . For me, the status was </span><b>active (exited)</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> but had these errors in the journal below:</span></p>
<p><b>Jun 09 16:06:39 maya arpwatch[2546]: chdir(/var/lib/arpwatch): Permission denied</b></p>
<p><b>Jun 09 16:06:39 maya arpwatch[2546]: (using current working directory)</b></p>
<p><b>Jun 09 16:06:39 maya arpwatch[2546]: pcap open wlp3s0: wlp3s0: You don&#8217;t have permission to capture</b></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">It seems there are two issues here. The first, I assume, is the fact that I didn&#8217;t create an </span><b>arp.dat</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> file. In the man page, it says you must do this first. The line is below.</span></p>
<p><b>Note that an empty arp.dat file must be created before the first time you run arpwatch.</b></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">However, it doesn&#8217;t exactly tell you where&#8230; Further down, though, it does say the default arpwatch directory was </span><b>/var/lib/arpwatch</b><span style="font-weight: 400;">, so I just shrugged my shoulders and created it there. It seems to have stopped complaining. As a note, I changed ownership and group ownership of the arp.dat file to the arpwatch user and group, and removed the read permissions from the other&#8217;s group.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The other issue is the </span><b>pcap</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> line above. </span><b>pcap</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> requires root permissions to run, so a </span><b>sudo</b><span style="font-weight: 400;">, or running arpwatch as root, is required.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">After that, watching </span><b>journalctl</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> will allow you to monitor </span><b>arpwatch</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in real-time. Below is an example of </span><b>arpwatch</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &#8220;discovering&#8221; a new device banging around on layer 2.</span></p>
<p><b>Jun 09 16:41:21 maya arpwatch[3917]: new station 10.x.x.x xx:xx:xx:75:81:d7 wlp3s0</b></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I&#8217;ve subbed in some x&#8217;s for paranoia&#8217;s sake.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">You can also grep or search the journal at a later date:</span></p>
<p><b>journalctl | grep &#8220;new station&#8221;</b></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I hope this helps!</span></p>
<ol>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Without knowing much about your network, I&#8217;m going to assume it&#8217;s for the home. You probably only want one device running </span><b>arpwatch</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> per subnet, or more precisely, broadcast domain. Since </span><b>pcap</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> is working in promiscuous mode, it should see any layer 2 frame that touches the interface regardless of destination. However, there are certainly arguments for running multiple instances</span></li>
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<p><b>CHECK THIS OUT!</b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Leo</span>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;Warpinator</span></li>
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</li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Joe</span>
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<li style="font-weight: 400;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrEzbD4IRTI&amp;pp=wgIECgIIAQ%3D%3D"><span style="font-weight: 400;">How to Update EEPROM on Raspberry Pi 4 For USB Boot</span></a>
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<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Novaspirit Tech</span></li>
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<p><strong>Announcements:</strong></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The next show will be Sunday, the 12th of July at 7PM UTC, 2PM US Central Time, 8PM British Summer Time</span></p>
<p><b>Wrap-up:</b></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Owen Peery &#8211; </span><a href="mailto:peeryo@sfusd.edu"><span style="font-weight: 400;">peeryo@sfusd.edu</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Twitter @owenpeery</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Joe &#8211; </span><a href="http://www.tllts.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">www.Tllts.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &nbsp;</span><a href="http://linuxlugcast.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">linuxlugcast.com</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> MeWe </span><a href="mailto:jb@mintcast.org"><span style="font-weight: 400;">jb@mintcast.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bo &#8211; <a href="https://undercastnetwork.com/">undercastnetwork.com</a> </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Moss &#8211; </span><a href="http://triadbardic.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Triad Bardic College</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><a href="http://peacefulhippo.info/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Peaceful Hippo</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, MeWe, music on </span><a href="http://mordewis.bandcamp.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bandcamp</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and </span><a href="https://youtube.com/zaivala"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Moss Bliss’ YouTube channel</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> or </span><a href="https://youtube.com/princeshoko1"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Robert Warren’s channel</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, I should have my ReverbNation site back soon, </span><a href="mailto:moss@mintcast.org"><span style="font-weight: 400;">moss@mintcast.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><a href="mailto:distrohoppersdigest@gmail.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">distrohoppersdigest@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><a href="https://sponsus.org/u/zaivala"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Sponsus</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (Now with Tiers, and a Donate Button!)!</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tony Hughes &#8211; HPR &#8211; &nbsp;</span><a href="http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=338"><span style="font-weight: 400;">http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=338</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Occasional Blog </span><a href="https://tony-hughes.blogspot.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://tony-hughes.blogspot.com/</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Twitter @TonyH1212, </span><a href="mailto:distrohoppersdigest@gmail.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">distrohoppersdigest@gmail.com</span></a> <a href="mailto:th@mintcast.org"><span style="font-weight: 400;">th@mintcast.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tony Watts &#8211; </span><a href="mailto:tw@mintcast.org"><span style="font-weight: 400;">tw@mintcast.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, Echoes of Savages (band)</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Josh &#8211; </span><a href="mailto:josh@mintcast.org"><span style="font-weight: 400;">josh@mintcast.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><a href="mailto:josh@edublocks.org"><span style="font-weight: 400;">josh@edublocks.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><a href="https://edublocks.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">edublocks.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and </span><a href="https://twitter.com/all_about_code"><span style="font-weight: 400;">@all_about_code</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> on Twitter</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Leo &#8211; </span><a href="https://leochavez.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">leochavez.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and </span><a href="https://twitter.com/leochavez"><span style="font-weight: 400;">@leochavez</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> on Twitter, and you can get your five minute news digest at </span><a href="https://fullcirclemagazine.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Full Circle Weekly News</span></a></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Before we leave, we want to make sure to acknowledge some of the people who make mintCast possible …&nbsp;</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;"><a href="https://github.com/HobStarCS">Hobstar</a> for his work on the new logo</span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Josh for all his work on the website</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Hacker Public Radio for the Mumble server we are using to record</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bytemark Hosting for hosting mintcast.org and our Mumble server</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Archive.org for hosting our audio files</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Linux Mint development team for the fine distro we love to talk about.</span></li>
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<p>In our Innards section, we ask Owen how Linux is improving the lives around him.</p>
<p>And finally, some feedback and a few suggestions</p>
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<p><b>LINUX INNARDS:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><b>Owen Peery Interview</b></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What was your first Linux experience?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Berkeley Linux User group in the mid 90’s by accident, I had gotten my first computer, a little Mac, I was looking for the Berkeley Macintosh User Group, and I got them confused, BLUG vs BMUG, and when I went, I didn’t understand anything, and thought, what have I gotten myself into with this Mac. I eventually found the BMUG and I only barely understood a little more.</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">I used to go skateboarding in a warehouse in San Francisco in the 90’s called Shred of Dignity. There were a group of tech obsessed folks who lived and skated there. A man named Tom set up the warehouse after he wrote some computer program and sold it to the US Army and made a lot of money doing it. There were computers there as well and I knew they were running Linux and we thought those kids were gods because they sat at those computers typing away and we had no idea what they were doing, which is why I decided to get a computer myself, but I have no idea why I got a Mac, I think because I found one used that was in my budget.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What was the very first Linux distro you ran?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">KDE in maybe 2003 or so. I bought a used computer when I started a functional art gallery in Philadelphia. I already had a working knowledge of computers and I bought this one because it had great specs, but when I got it home I turned it on and I had no idea what I was looking at. The guy I bought it from showed me a few things and that it worked at his home, so I bought it. I had used Windows a little by then but wasn’t that familiar with it, so it worked for him, so I thought, cool, it works. I called a friend who was studying Computer Science at Drexel University and he used Linux so I knew he could help. He used KDE as well so he helped me get started, but I only kept it for about a month. I just couldn’t wrap my head around it. I installed Windows and was on my way.</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">I lived in Toulouse, France from 2007-2011 and when I was there I gave Linux a chance again. I went to the local LUG, mostly because I needed to practice my French technical vocabulary, and because I assumed some folks there would know English in case I couldn’t ask my questions in French. I used Ubuntu for about 6 months then, but I always had it dual boot with Windows because I was also in a Master’s program in Designing Information Systems and some of the software we used was Windows only, think VIsual Basic, BI, and PLSQL. When I started doing a lot more screencasts, I moved back to Macs to use Camtasia and Screenflow and gave Linux a rest for a bit.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What&#8217;s a typical workflow for you entail?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Depends on what I’m working on for the day</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">VIdeo editing</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Browser based work with personal and work email</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Working on making different workspaces reflect my needs</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Why/Why not Linux Mint?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Great for beginners, interface looks similar enough to Windows that the transition is not too hard, I moved from Macs and it’s been easy for me to figure out a lot of things.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Does Linux do everything you need in a system?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Yes but . . .</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Screenflow is an amazing app that is an all in one solution for screencasting. You can capture the video, multiple monitors possible, iPad screens even, you can edit the audio and edit the video, you can add callouts, you can add transitions, it’s really comprehensive, and at the same time not too overwhelming. It has the video and audio editing features needed to make great screencasts, but fewer than full featured audio and video editors, so you have what you need, but not too much.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Do you do any Linux Gaming?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Trying to but I’m not a gamer. I’ve got 2 STEAM games on my machine, Super Bernie Bros bc it was free and I wanted to see STEAM integration. Since it worked well, I bought a game called Streets of Rogue bc a student recommended it to me. It was on sale for $19.99 and I bought it, but I only play it infrequently, and never enough to make much progress or feel like, This is fun. I’m torn between how much to look up tips on the internet and how much should I struggle and figure it out myself. I sometimes gamify my classroom and I understand good games, digital or table top, have built in control structures to teach you how to play, so I’m wondering where those are in Streets of Rogue.</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">I’d love to find a fun game that helps teach you how to use the Terminal and learn more commands.</span>
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<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Joe &#8211; </span><a href="https://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Do you contribute to the community?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Mint forums</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Telegram groups</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bug reporting when Kdenlive went from 19-20 by accident</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Running Mint 20.04 beta but not really reporting any issues I come across, it took so much to get it all setup correctly, not bc of Mint, but getting drive partitioned correctly and the right data on the right partitions.</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">I hope to eventually use my video creation skills to help out the community once I get settled on a good workflow and dial in the software I’ll use, really trying to stick to Kdenlive but DaVinci Resolve is tempting too</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What was your main motivation for refurbishing computers?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Had a large closet full of older computers just sitting there at school, old mostly Windows 7 machines</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Many families did not have a computer or not enough computers, if they had 3 children for example.</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">I had already been using Mint for about a year on an old laptop so I knew it worked well on older hardware</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">It saved the school money so we didn’t have to eWaste another load of computers</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">It gave families computers who needed them&nbsp;</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">I teach computer science, not tech use, at school and it gave students much better computers to use than the Chromebooks the district was lending</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">District lent Chromebooks, but the backlog, wait, and locations weren’t that convenient, so we came up with our own system</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">We say in my district that in computer science we don’t just use tech we make it, so giving out Linux computers where there are no restrictions also furthers this idea, if you want your computer to do X well you can, you just have to learn how, there is nothing preventing you from making it work exactly how you want</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Is there any piece of Linux and open source software, other than a browser, you could not live without?</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Not really but I love using </span><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/peek-desktop-gif-screen-recorder-linux"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Peek.</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> I have made over 10,000 video tutorials and screencasts, but recently I have fallen in love with making short animated gifs for simple how to things instead of a full video. Peek is so simple and the file size is small, so I use it a lot to visually model how to do things. It’s easier to email or put in a Google Slide deck or even put on a website for how to help.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><b>VIBRATIONS FROM THE ETHER</b></p>
<ul>
<li>jack</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="https://vscodium.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://vscodium.com/</span></a></p>
<ul>
<li>Leo’s response</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>More Jack!</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Benjamin Moser</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Travelinrob on ep337</li>
</ul>
<p><a href="http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install"><span style="font-weight: 400;">http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install</span></a></p>
<ul>
<li>DaveW&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>John Wallis Saga Episode x+1</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I managed to get one test resolved, installing and configuring a PAM.&nbsp; I</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">would appreciate your help with resolving the following, please:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">* Consider running ARP monitoring software (arpwatch,arpon) [NETW-3032]</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><a href="https://cisofy.com/lynis/controls/NETW-3032/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://cisofy.com/lynis/controls/NETW-3032/</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I have installed Arpwatch and invoked arpwatch -i for both Ethernet and</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">wireless port, but re-running the scan makes no difference.&nbsp; I look</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">forward to hearing from you.</span></p>
<ul>
<li>Leo’s Response</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Glad to hear from you again. I installed </span><b>arpwatch</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and tinkered around with it a bit and it seems like there was a lot of digging for answers that aren&#8217;t fully addressed in the man page!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I&#8217;m not sure how familiar you are with layer 2 networking (MAC addresses, etc) so I&#8217;ll leave that alone for now. I can go into it more if you&#8217;d like.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Here&#8217;s the deal. Since you&#8217;ve got it installed, we&#8217;ll start from there. Check the status of the arpwatch service with </span><b>systemctl status arpwatch</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> . For me, the status was </span><b>active (exited)</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> but had these errors in the journal below:</span></p>
<p><b>Jun 09 16:06:39 maya arpwatch[2546]: chdir(/var/lib/arpwatch): Permission denied</b></p>
<p><b>Jun 09 16:06:39 maya arpwatch[2546]: (using current working directory)</b></p>
<p><b>Jun 09 16:06:39 maya arpwatch[2546]: pcap open wlp3s0: wlp3s0: You don&#8217;t have permission to capture</b></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">It seems there are two issues here. The first, I assume, is the fact that I didn&#8217;t create an </span><b>arp.dat</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> file. In the man page, it says you must do this first. The line is below.</span></p>
<p><b>Note that an empty arp.dat file must be created before the first time you run arpwatch.</b></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">However, it doesn&#8217;t exactly tell you where&#8230; Further down, though, it does say the default arpwatch directory was </span><b>/var/lib/arpwatch</b><span style="font-weight: 400;">, so I just shrugged my shoulders and created it there. It seems to have stopped complaining. As a note, I changed ownership and group ownership of the arp.dat file to the arpwatch user and group, and removed the read permissions from the other&#8217;s group.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The other issue is the </span><b>pcap</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> line above. </span><b>pcap</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> requires root permissions to run, so a </span><b>sudo</b><span style="font-weight: 400;">, or running arpwatch as root, is required.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">After that, watching </span><b>journalctl</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> will allow you to monitor </span><b>arpwatch</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in real-time. Below is an example of </span><b>arpwatch</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &#8220;discovering&#8221; a new device banging around on layer 2.</span></p>
<p><b>Jun 09 16:41:21 maya arpwatch[3917]: new station 10.x.x.x xx:xx:xx:75:81:d7 wlp3s0</b></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I&#8217;ve subbed in some x&#8217;s for paranoia&#8217;s sake.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">You can also grep or search the journal at a later date:</span></p>
<p><b>journalctl | grep &#8220;new station&#8221;</b></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I hope this helps!</span></p>
<ol>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Without knowing much about your network, I&#8217;m going to assume it&#8217;s for the home. You probably only want one device running </span><b>arpwatch</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> per subnet, or more precisely, broadcast domain. Since </span><b>pcap</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> is working in promiscuous mode, it should see any layer 2 frame that touches the interface regardless of destination. However, there are certainly arguments for running multiple instances</span></li>
</ol>
<p><b>CHECK THIS OUT!</b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Leo</span>
<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;Warpinator</span></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Joe</span>
<ul>
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<ul>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Chuwi</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Celeron</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">M.2 and emmc</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">$155 sale price from $189</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Est. shipping August 2020</span></li>
</ul>
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<li style="font-weight: 400;"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrEzbD4IRTI&amp;pp=wgIECgIIAQ%3D%3D"><span style="font-weight: 400;">How to Update EEPROM on Raspberry Pi 4 For USB Boot</span></a>
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<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Novaspirit Tech</span></li>
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<p><strong>Announcements:</strong></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The next show will be Sunday, the 12th of July at 7PM UTC, 2PM US Central Time, 8PM British Summer Time</span></p>
<p><b>Wrap-up:</b></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Owen Peery &#8211; </span><a href="mailto:peeryo@sfusd.edu"><span style="font-weight: 400;">peeryo@sfusd.edu</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Twitter @owenpeery</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Joe &#8211; </span><a href="http://www.tllts.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">www.Tllts.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &nbsp;</span><a href="http://linuxlugcast.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">linuxlugcast.com</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> MeWe </span><a href="mailto:jb@mintcast.org"><span style="font-weight: 400;">jb@mintcast.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bo &#8211; <a href="https://undercastnetwork.com/">undercastnetwork.com</a> </span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Moss &#8211; </span><a href="http://triadbardic.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Triad Bardic College</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><a href="http://peacefulhippo.info/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Peaceful Hippo</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, MeWe, music on </span><a href="http://mordewis.bandcamp.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bandcamp</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and </span><a href="https://youtube.com/zaivala"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Moss Bliss’ YouTube channel</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> or </span><a href="https://youtube.com/princeshoko1"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Robert Warren’s channel</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, I should have my ReverbNation site back soon, </span><a href="mailto:moss@mintcast.org"><span style="font-weight: 400;">moss@mintcast.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><a href="mailto:distrohoppersdigest@gmail.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">distrohoppersdigest@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><a href="https://sponsus.org/u/zaivala"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Sponsus</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (Now with Tiers, and a Donate Button!)!</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tony Hughes &#8211; HPR &#8211; &nbsp;</span><a href="http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=338"><span style="font-weight: 400;">http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=338</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Occasional Blog </span><a href="https://tony-hughes.blogspot.com/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://tony-hughes.blogspot.com/</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Twitter @TonyH1212, </span><a href="mailto:distrohoppersdigest@gmail.com"><span style="font-weight: 400;">distrohoppersdigest@gmail.com</span></a> <a href="mailto:th@mintcast.org"><span style="font-weight: 400;">th@mintcast.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tony Watts &#8211; </span><a href="mailto:tw@mintcast.org"><span style="font-weight: 400;">tw@mintcast.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, Echoes of Savages (band)</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Josh &#8211; </span><a href="mailto:josh@mintcast.org"><span style="font-weight: 400;">josh@mintcast.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><a href="mailto:josh@edublocks.org"><span style="font-weight: 400;">josh@edublocks.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><a href="https://edublocks.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">edublocks.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and </span><a href="https://twitter.com/all_about_code"><span style="font-weight: 400;">@all_about_code</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> on Twitter</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Leo &#8211; </span><a href="https://leochavez.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">leochavez.org</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and </span><a href="https://twitter.com/leochavez"><span style="font-weight: 400;">@leochavez</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> on Twitter, and you can get your five minute news digest at </span><a href="https://fullcirclemagazine.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Full Circle Weekly News</span></a></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Before we leave, we want to make sure to acknowledge some of the people who make mintCast possible …&nbsp;</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;"><a href="https://github.com/HobStarCS">Hobstar</a> for his work on the new logo</span></li>
<li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Josh for all his work on the website</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Hacker Public Radio for the Mumble server we are using to record</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bytemark Hosting for hosting mintcast.org and our Mumble server</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Archive.org for hosting our audio files</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Linux Mint development team for the fine distro we love to talk about.</span></li>
</ul>
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